Interview transcript  

Ms. Mariagrazia Baroni AIM (Italian Affiliation of Music Remedy Professionals) previous President, hosted by Ms Francesca M. Rubbettino.

Rubbettino: Welcome to a brand new appointment with the video sequence on coaching and certification in music remedy provided by the Training and Certification Fee of the World Federation of Music Remedy. The aim of those brief informative movies is to offer an summary on coaching and certification in music remedy world wide.

Let me briefly introduce myself: my title is Francesca Rubbettino, I’m an Italian music therapist and psychologist. I’m a member of the WFMT Training and Certification Committee for the time period 2020/2023.

At the moment I’m delighted to have with me Ms Mariagrazia Baroni, a seasoned music therapist with twenty years expertise in finish of life, hospice and palliative care and with aged individuals affected by dementia and persistent degenerative illnesses.

Mariagrazia Baroni has been Chair of AIM the Italian affiliation of music remedy professionals from 2016 to October 2022.

Good morning, Mariagrazia

Baroni:  Good morning Francesca and thanks for inviting me.

Rubbettino: There are such a lot of matters to speak about..however… The primary query I’d wish to ask is:  in your expertise, how has the music remedy career grown over the previous couple of years?

Baroni: Thanks for this very attention-grabbing query. If I keep in mind the start of my career, I observe with nice satisfaction that to begin with the alternatives for work in numerous contexts have expanded. 20 years in the past music therapists labored in groups in incapacity and psychiatry contexts, in faculties, and in preventive contexts. Lately extra alternatives have been opened within the well being and social-health context such because the one I presently work in: hospice, grownup oncology, and pediatric oncology…and the fragile context of jail. I believe that the skilled determine of the music therapist has been included in numerous organizations and in numerous working groups. This additionally makes me say with satisfaction that music therapists have obtained a top quality job placement inside these interdisciplinary and multi-professional groups with the ability to contribute and collaborate within the drafting of particular person and group rehab initiatives inside private and non-private establishments.

Rubbettino: After all!… you say “high quality”. Do you suppose that Legislation quantity 4/2013 has influenced in a selected or vital means this technique of progress?

Baroni: Legislation 4/2013 is a superb acquisition for Italy even whether it is obscure its scope. We don’t learn legal guidelines on daily basis certainly!

Rubbettino: After all.

Baroni: So… it’s fairly complicated… What I can say is that Italy has transposed a European directive on the free circulation of pros round Europe…. that is to permit professionals to work in all European nations… France, Spain, Austria, and so on. This directive, which is embodied in Legislation No 4, has introduced a substantial amount of change… for instance, skilled associations – reminiscent of ours – signify knowledgeable determine. This illustration is expressed by the devices utilized by different worldwide associations or rules: the code of ethics, for instance. The primary novelty is that Legislation 4 requires steady skilled coaching: skilled updating is obligatory. This makes a considerable distinction from the previous: professionals can not stay anchored to their preliminary coaching, however they should at all times attend new programs and coaching, having the help of a colleague’s community and the chance to attract on the information made out there by the worldwide group.

Rubbettino: Sure, the internationalisation of the determine is vital! Additionally it is vital for WFMT. The ECC may be very fascinated with offering help to professionals who need to depart their dwelling nation to work overseas. Clearly, that is typically made troublesome by the issue of acquiring the equalisation of certifications. From this viewpoint, Europe has already began a technique of equalising certifications by competencies with the Bologna Course of. It might be helpful for this course of to be prolonged to music remedy. Usually, in music remedy, a global reference is made to the American Certification Board as a transparent instance of certification, however…. referring to a extra humanistic imaginative and prescient of coaching – reminiscent of ours – we want to speak about abilities and competencies slightly than certification. What’s your viewpoint?

Baroni: After all. I want to add details about Legislation quantity 4 which has given an vital software to associations. Italian regulation permits associations to difficulty skilled and repair high quality certificates to their members. The regulation additionally offers certification issued by unbiased our bodies, acknowledged by the Italian Authorities. This certification is issued solely by passing a written and oral examination… It is a pretty lengthy course of. Nonetheless, it goals to evaluate and certificates particular abilities acquired by skilled apply. It investigates how professionals have fulfilled the duty of steady coaching. The certification software is essential. In Italy it was carried out by unbiased our bodies on the idea of agreements inside European Neighborhood State Members. It has as a bonus: the chance to see acknowledged the competences {of professional} qualification externally to the affiliation.

Rubbettino: Sure… So.. Might I say that we have already got a certification system in our nation and that it’s a software that can be used round Europe, because it refers to European Neighborhood laws. Is there the potential of utilizing Italian certification in one other European Nation?

Baroni: In the intervening time some European Nations have their very own skilled regulatory course of… or totally different legal guidelines regulating music remedy career… Certification is the software that may join these alternative ways of framing music remedy career. 

Rubbettino: After all… It actually looks as if excellent news even for many who now embark on the coaching…. to have a transparent thought of their skilled future.

I now want to transfer our consideration to an vital occasion that may happen in Italy in 2026: AIM has managed to get the organisation of the subsequent World Congress of Music Remedy to be held in Bologna in 2026. Italy has performed an vital position within the basis of the World Federation itself… will you remind us of this historic second?

Baroni: In 1985, the WFMT was based in Genoa and it’s with nice satisfaction and honour that we’re internet hosting the subsequent world congress to be held in Bologna in 2026. It was an intense work carried out along with my colleague Marinella Maggiori and the AIM board. We’re glad and excited to should organise this vital assembly that may host colleagues from all areas of the world.  We purpose to have the ability to meet the varied cultures of music remedy as a result of we all know the good selection and mode by which music remedy is utilized within the day by day work of all those that proceed within the day by day clinic….  we expect that these variations should not a restrict however an important alternative to be taught and deepen our apply.

We’ve already began some actions inside the affiliation’s members to organize us for the Congress: we have now organised conferences since final 12 months to extend the chances for members to have the ability to current their work on the congress. That is the trail we’re making; we referred to as it “Highway to Bologna”: it’s a 4/5 conferences a 12 months program to organize AIM members to the Congress. There will even be native consciousness initiatives to extend the information of our career. One of many basic targets is to fulfill the representatives of a very powerful establishments that may profit from the presence of music remedy inside the interdisciplinary groups after which dialogue with all scientific associations within the numerous fields of Well being and well-being.

We aspire to have the ability to deepen the subject associated to the certification of abilities in order that will probably be simpler to maneuver not solely in Europe but additionally world wide.

Rubbettino: This certainly is considered one of our essential targets….. along with steady coaching…it’s completely important… I believe this can be a globally shared difficulty. It’s vital for us to be updated with new approaches and new prospects for utilizing music remedy in numerous contexts…… nicely…  It has been an important pleasure to have this dialog with you… I could say: Good luck for Bologna 2026?

Baroni: Thanks a lot for this chance Francesca and for the chance to share these concepts along with our colleagues. Have a pleasant day. Thanks.